Adventures In Computing

November 25, 2008

Banshee 1.4 And iPods Are Like Mixing Oil And Water: It Does Not Work!

Filed under: 64bit, Banshee, Gnome, GNU/Linux, iPod, Linux, Ubuntu, Ubuntu 64bit — Normand Bissonnette @ 4:47 pm

I’m not a happy camper as I am writing this.  I simply wanted to add some music to my iPod.  Gtkpod froze and my computer was heating up.  Must be a bug.  Rhythymbox works but I decide to try Banshee 1.4, Bad idea!  I am able to load new music fine.  I unplug the iPod after it says that I can disconnect it.  No music on the ‘pod.  What is going on?  Plug the iPod and I can see the music so I disconnect it once more and still no music.  I restart the ‘pod by pressing the “Menu” and “Select” buttons simultaneously.  The iPod restarts, still no music.  I am pissed off!

I connect the iPod back to the computer and  I “Drag’N’Drop” the songs, all 11016 of them, on my laptop.  I don’t feel like pulling out all my CDs and ripping them again so that I can place them in the ‘pod.  I boot Windows XP from the only computer that I own which still has Windows on it and do a factory reset on the iPod using iTunes.

I spend several hours, over several days loading up my iPod with music.  I used Rhythymbox Music Player to load the music in the ‘Pod.  I have to mention that this post has been written in three steps:  the first paragraph was written when my iPod “lost” all of it’s songs two weeks ago.  The second paragraph and the first sentence of the third paragraph was written a week later.  The rest was written today the day I published the post.

I now know that Banshee 1.4 is the culprit in losing all the songs.  I taught that maybe gtkpod was since it had frozen and I had to terminate it because my computer was overheating.  It took all my courage to try uploading songs in my iPod using Banshee and it worked but when I eject the ‘Pod it says that I have “0 songs”.  I know for a fact that I have 11037 on it since I just loaded 21 songs using Banshee 1.4.  Damn, damn, damn.  I plugin the iPod to my laptop.  I launch Rhythymbox.  I see all 11037 songs.  I play one of the songs I just uploaded using Banshee.  It plays fine.  I unplug the iPod and low and behold all my songs are there.  I am so glad, that I am glad, that I’m glad; to quote Cream.  I must dig out their CD and add that song to my iPod.  So I have learned that I cannot use Banshee as my all purpose music player/iPod loader.  I must keep on using Rhythymbox.

I really liked Banshee 1.4 but I cannot use it because of this problem.  If you do not have an iPod I whole heartily recommend it, but if you do I cannot recommend it. Apparently I am the only person that has this problem since I cannot find anybody else on the web with the same problem.  I wonder if it is because I have the 64 bit version of intrepid installed?

If you know of a solution please leave a comment, thanks.



  1. surely you jsut needed to add another track to your ipod with say rhthmbox, so that the database gets properly redone

    Comment by anon — November 25, 2008 @ 5:40 pm

  2. I didn’t even add a track with Rhythymbox, I just played a song that I added with Banshee and the database was redone.

    Comment by spurius — November 25, 2008 @ 6:29 pm

  3. What model of iPod ? Is is a recent one needing the firewire guid trick?

    Banshee uses its own iPod interaction library. All the other software I know of (Rhythmbox, Gtkpod, Amarok) use libgpod (out of the gtkpod project).

    Banshee does not know about the guid stuff, and I’ve read that the Banshee devs are not big iPod fans.

    Personnaly, I’m looking for a kind soul to offer a PPA with a recent SVN checkout of libgpod and dependant players compiles against it. It fixes a ton of things. Distros tend to pickup stable releases, and libgpod is released once every blue moon…


    Comment by Nico — November 25, 2008 @ 8:33 pm

  4. I had the exact same problem with my iPod one year ago. I eventually sell it back and promise myself to never ever buy an iPod again. I don’t think Banshee or RythmBox or even gtkpod is to blame. The problem is Apple. Now I’ve a Sandisk Sansa. It’s not perfect but at least I can put songs in it using Ubuntu. besides, the Sansa sounds far better than the iPod and it’s not entirely due to the crappy earbuds shipped with the iPod.

    Comment by Michel Leunen — November 25, 2008 @ 8:35 pm

  5. Its an iPod Classic 160Gb model # MB145C. What is this firewire guid trick, Nico?

    Comment by spurius — November 25, 2008 @ 10:10 pm

  6. I don’t mean to be contrary, but part of your problem seems to be your paradigm. Your ipod should only hold a copy of your digital files. Why on earth would you keep your only digital copies of your music on something as fleeting and obfuscating as your iPod?

    Comment by GABE — November 25, 2008 @ 10:10 pm

  7. Well GABE I have everything on CDs or backed up on DVDs, I need the hard drive space on my computers for other stuff. GABE, I have question for you, why did you use the verb obfuscate to describe my iPod? Are you trying to obfuscate my problem or are you trying to look intelligent by using big word?

    GABE, I am not hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobic, since once in a while I must use gigantic words show how intelligent I am too.

    Comment by spurius — November 25, 2008 @ 10:35 pm

  8. Well, if you don;t know about the firewire trick and it works with Rhythmbox, then you do not need it.

    Blame Banshee’s failure on its relying on its own iPod interface library.

    Comment by Nico — November 26, 2008 @ 7:50 am

  9. Ipods are gay. You are gay. Tacos are gay. Vaginas are gay. Yo’ mama is gay.

    Pomeranians are gay. Tubas are gay.

    Comment by Ibod Catooga — November 26, 2008 @ 3:50 pm

  10. I did not delete the last comment from Ibod Catooga, since I believe in freedom of expression even though I do not agree with it.

    I do have a question for you Ibod Catooga, are you five years old or what?

    Comment by spurius — November 26, 2008 @ 4:13 pm

  11. No I am like to be funny man on the intent. I like it si funny that tubas are gay. How can tuba be gay? Answer: It has a large hunghole.

    How can the vagina be gay? It is purpose be anti-gay. It drives gay away. This is why funny. Haha. See? Funny.

    Comment by Ibod Catooga — December 2, 2008 @ 10:16 am

  12. I got the same problem and my laptop isn’t a 64 bit.

    Comment by ALBERTO LARA — December 28, 2008 @ 6:51 am

  13. Yo mama is five years old!

    Comment by Ibod Catooga — December 30, 2008 @ 11:29 pm

  14. I found a happy solution to the iPod / Ubuntu x64 sync issue – Songbird. Works with my 160gb iPod Classic (which I’m sure Ibod Catooga will think is clasically gay) right out of the box – though it takes a while for the iPod to mount (c’mon Ibod, let’s hear another gay joke about mounting).

    I wasted a lot of time with Banshee and was really disappointed. Songbird is not perfect as a player, but it has an active development community, has some cool features and was painless.

    Comment by wredefine — March 9, 2009 @ 10:52 am

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